Epoxy vs. Cartridge Insertion Force!

Post by **CronoTriggerfan** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 1:13 pm

Hey guys! Workin' on an SNESp, and I really don't want to screw the motherboard down, as it would ruin the effect I'm trying to create for this portable. So instead, I was just going to load the sides down with a ton of epoxy and maybe some hot glue. Would the epoxy be able to hold the motherboard in, despite the cartridge insertion force? Thanks!

CTFan

Krepticor · Post by **Krepticor** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 1:54 pm

if you use marine grade JB-Weld it should do really well since it is di-electric and is very strong...use it all the time to quit hummin transformers

the only downside is once you apply any type of epoxy You need to not move it anymore, So I suggest you expoxy some runners on the side that are the exact width of the case so ou can remove the mobo and do repairs (if needed)

Turbo Tax 1.0 · Post by **Turbo Tax 1.0** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:05 pm

tons of hot glue works fine, but if you can make screw posts it will make it much easier to take it apart

hailrazer · Post by **hailrazer** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:17 pm

I have bought 2 portables from this site and I'll tell you now that hot glue does not work good.

The hot glue won't hold up to repeated cart insertions and removal.

I had to remove the cart slots , remove the glue, relocate the slots and bolt them down to make them secure enough for repeated cart insertions and removal.

Post by **bicostp** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 3:31 pm

You don't need anything fancy; regular 5 minute epoxy is more than enough to hold it.

Screw posts are better, though.

Hot glue sucks for heavy duty stuff, but for holding speakers in place, harnessing wires, and other low pressure situations, it's great.

Post by **CronoTriggerfan** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:19 pm

bicostp wrote:You don't need anything fancy; regular 5 minute epoxy is more than enough to hold it.

Screw posts are better, though.

Hot glue sucks for heavy duty stuff, but for holding speakers in place, harnessing wires, and other low pressure situations, it's great.

Thanks for the reassurance on the epoxy, bic. I picked up some 5-minute JB Weld today, will that be good? Also, is it di-electric, I guess I should check before I go slapping it on a mobo, even if it is just the grounding strips...

CTFan

dkap01 · Post by **dkap01** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:49 pm

Dont use hot glue or epoxy..... Like he said hot glue wont hold and if you use epoxy you wont be able to move it. What I use and it works best is nylon screws and plastic weld epoxy. That way you dont have to drill holes in your case and it will allow you to remove it when you need to. This is the best way....

-Dave

Post by **marshallh** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:26 pm

hailrazer wrote:I have bought 2 portables from this site and I'll tell you now that hot glue does not work good.

The hot glue won't hold up to repeated cart insertions and removal.

I had to remove the cart slots , remove the glue, relocate the slots and bolt them down to make them secure enough for repeated cart insertions and removal.

This man speaks from experience... If I had a better idea I would have done a half-decent job of that part.

From what I've seen, no adhesive is going to make the cart slot stay in place. You're going to have to use screws and screwposts. This doesn't mean you have to have unsightly screws sticking out of your case, but you need to place screwposts strategically.
It might work if you can bolt the slot to the SNES motherboard. You might need to drill holes in the ground plane at each side.
It will help if you design the case to be just big enough for the motherboard, so it has no room to move around.

I've used the bolt-to-mobo method on both L64s I built, but it didn't do any good when the mobo itself was just hot-glued in place

hailrazer · Post by **hailrazer** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:32 pm

marshallh wrote:
hailrazer wrote:I have bought 2 portables from this site and I'll tell you now that hot glue does not work good.

The hot glue won't hold up to repeated cart insertions and removal.

I had to remove the cart slots , remove the glue, relocate the slots and bolt them down to make them secure enough for repeated cart insertions and removal.
This man speaks from experience... If I had a better idea I would have done a half-decent job of that part.

From what I've seen, no adhesive is going to make the cart slot stay in place. You're going to have to use screws and screwposts. This doesn't mean you have to have unsightly screws sticking out of your case, but you need to place screwposts strategically.
It might work if you can bolt the slot to the SNES motherboard. You might need to drill holes in the ground plane at each side.
It will help if you design the case to be just big enough for the motherboard, so it has no room to move around.

I've used the bolt-to-mobo method on both L64s I built, but it didn't do any good when the mobo itself was just hot-glued in place

Hey I didn't give any names and I wasn't complaining.

Master of Portables · Post by **Master of Portables** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:57 pm

are you sure hot glue won't stay, if you have the right kind, the hot glue i have is hells worth to remove, as I had to do with the stupid controller because a wire was not connected properly, if you place the glue right, the mobo will stay, if not, it will break off

hailrazer · Post by **hailrazer** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 4:00 pm

Master of Portables wrote:are you sure hot glue won't stay, if you have the right kind, the hot glue i have is hells worth to remove, as I had to do with the stupid controller because a wire was not connected properly, if you place the glue right, the mobo will stay, if not, it will break off

I use Industrial strength hot glue at work and no it won't stay.

After 20-30 cart removals it will break loose.