Famicom four player

[Kai]

Hi
now that I know how to connect a famicom expansion port to the nes
I'd like to be abel to play four player famicom games on it I found this pinout but I don't know how to connect controllers to then or won't usuall controllers work if that's the case how would I have to build them

The pinout:

PIN # Famicom Expansion Port Controller Device
1 GND GND
7 PORT1-D1 JOYPAD #4 DATA
9 PORT1-CLK JOYPAD #4 CLOCK
12 OUT0 STROBE
13 PORT0-D1 JOYPAD #3 DATA
14 PORT0-CLK JOYPAD #3 CLOCK
15 +5V +5V

Thx for the Help
Have a nice Weekend
Kai

[gannon]

The problem is that famiclones do not have traces for the expansion port, so you can't use it for that.
Not sure if the 4 player adapter uses the expansion port or just plugs into the controller ports though.

[Kai]

as far as i know there's no four player adapter but there's the possibility to connect two extra controlers to the expansion port
here's the pinout again think it wasn't read able in the first post

PIN # Famicom Expansion Port Controller Device
1 GND GND
7 PORT1-D1 JOYPAD #4 DATA
9 PORT1-CLK JOYPAD #4 CLOCK
12 OUT0 STROBE
13 PORT0-D1 JOYPAD #3 DATA
14 PORT0-CLK JOYPAD #3 CLOCK
15 +5V +5V

gnd strobe and 5V are simmilar on pad 3 and 4 but that are only 5 wires per controler that doesn't make any sence to me but I found this on different pages all the same it must be right
cu
Kai

[Triton]

NES had the fourscore. ut plugged into the controler ports i think

[Guest]

sorry i forgot to write famicom i know the nes has one but the famicom has'nt cause it has another way to get the signals

[peppers]

edit:

[Kai]

if your right that means I only need to get the controller pin out and connect it like the connections which i postet above the other pins stand unconnected?

[peppers]

edit

[Kai]

cause i'd like to play famicom fourplayer games I'll have to make this mod cause famicom games can't handel the fourscore (I own a Fourscore already)
THX
Kai

[peppers]

you out of luck the famicom verson did use the expanson port http://nesdev.icequake.net/ffpa.txt


unless your useing a real nes then there is a way by simpley useing the pinout in my link and matching it with the nes expanson port pinout
^
edit: witch is waht you wanted the hole time now that I read more carefully

[Kai]

don't know why this wasn't read able the whole time
PIN # Famicom Expansion Port------------------Controller Device
1 ------GND ----------------------------------------GND
7 ------PORT1-D1 ----------------------------------JOYPAD #4 DATA
9 ------PORT1-CLK ---------------------------------JOYPAD #4 CLOCK
12 -----OUT0 ---------------------------------------STROBE
13 -----PORT0-D1 ----------------------------------JOYPAD #3 DATA
14 -----PORT0-CLK --------------------------------JOYPAD #3 CLOCK
15 -----+5V ----------------------------------------+5V

I have this fro connecting the controllers the thing I don't know is why has the 3. and 4. Port only 5 pins nort 7 (gnd data clock strobe +5v)

[Kai]

hi
this whole post was stupid
I opened my controller and realized the normal controller onli uses 5 pins only the plug has 7. 2 of them are unused (only for the zapper and rob... i believe)

[peppers]

edit:^you figured it out yourself I see

sorry for not reading more carefully
the regular controllers onley use the 5 the extra 2 datas are for outher devises

[Kai]

thanks for the quick answers
could you help me with the pinouts now I know that the number of cennections is right but I still need to know which pin is for clk gnd... do you have the pinouts

[peppers]

seems to be right did not look to closeley though

here is the pinout equivalent for the famicom expanson port sence yoyu already have the nes expanson port pinout so you know

http://nesdev.icequake.net/ffpa.txt