PS2 portable system

Valium · Post by **Valium** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 7:49 am

Tell me then, what is your plan? Are you going to try and emulate a PS2 type system? Are you recreating a PS2? Are you building a completely different console that's capable of running PS2 games for some reason?

No. You're not. You're redesigning the PS2 so that it's smaller. And to do that, you'd have to exactly what I said in my last post. If you want to try this, then be my guest, waste your money. But I'm telling you now, if you manage to make it small enough to fit in a Psp, enjoy playing your game for the few minutes you can.

Have you even seen the inside of a Ps2 slim? I have, many times, in fact there's one sitting on my lap as I'm typing this. A few more scattered around my work bench. I know all there is to know about this thing, so my doubt isn't without good reason.

Tibia · Post by **Tibia** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 8:56 am

lburna95 wrote:I agree it will be difficult,and as you said there is no room for error.The outcome would be priceless though,and even if I don't get it to work I still learn from it.I'm aware of how much time it will take,and have no problems investing my time.

Imagination is more important than knowledge. For while knowledge defines all we currently know and understand, imagination points to all we might yet discover and create.

Somehow, I still have my doubts even Einstein could have managed to cram a PS2 in a PSP.

Just curious, but is the "95" in your user name the year you were born?

Kyo · Post by **Kyo** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 9:56 am

my question would be "is the ps2 part of the first ps3s smaller than a ps2 slim?"

lburna95 · Post by **lburna95** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:57 am

Sorry Valium I'm not going to explain everything to you,and the fact is you would still say it can't be done even if I did.Your mind is set on the PS2 slim mobo,and that is not what I'm working on.The 95 in my username is just a number which doesn't mean anything.I was born in 84 and the reason I used that quote is because you all are going off what you know.I've seen all the revisions of the PS2 motherboards from PS2 fat systems to PS2 slims,and it won't use anything like it.The way its looking I don't want your help or need it,as I'm capable of doing it on my own.On another note I'm wasting my time even talking on here,because not even one of you besides 64M320N3 and Electric Rain has even offered any help.

Tibia · Post by **Tibia** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 12:14 pm

Wah, wah, wah. lol This is funny. Keep talking.

Anyway, we've heard this all before. You'll fail, and we'll never hear anything more again.

lburna95 · Post by **lburna95** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 12:55 pm

Tibia wrote:Wah, wah, wah. lol This is funny. Keep talking.

Anyway, we've heard this all before. You'll fail, and we'll never hear anything more again.

Well if you treat your members like this I'm suprised they stay to begin with.It doesn't take much to be a jackass,which is clearly the case here.I agree its funny how quick you jump on the flaming bandwagon.I can guarantee you won't hear from me again its not hard to leave this site at all.Haha lol haters just because you can't get the job done don't hate,and if you can what is stopping you.

Kyo · Post by **Kyo** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 1:04 pm

I think it has something to do with one of these things:

1) Your project seems impossible/incredibly expensive
2) your post structure is exhausting

Valium · Post by **Valium** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 1:30 pm

You've shown no evidence that you can do it, no plans as to how you'll do it, and we have proof that you can't do it.

Do you have any idea how many people come here almost daily asking about ridiculous things?

Here's a nice little question for you. If this is possible, why hasn't Sony done it already?

Kyo · Post by **Kyo** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 2:12 pm

Valium wrote:You've shown no evidence that you can do it, no plans as to how you'll do it, and we have proof that you can't do it.

Do you have any idea how many people come here almost daily asking about ridiculous things?

Here's a nice little question for you. If this is possible, why hasn't Sony done it already?

To be fair, they could probably make it smaller now. (by making the chips smaller)

Sony hasn't done it because they already released a psp slim and releasing another one would be just ridiculous, especially now that the ps3 is out (hi nintendo!)

That doesn't stop you from being right, though

Ben Cebhrem · Post by **Ben Cebhrem** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 2:34 pm

Folks, this isn't impossible. It may be unrealistic to fit it into a PSP, sure, but let him learn what this all entails- there's a reason I'm redesigning an NES myself, beyond any potential space saving on the PCB- it's a very valuable learning experience, looking up this and that, learning components as you go.

Keep us posted mate.

lburna95 · Post by **lburna95** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 2:35 pm

Valium wrote:You've shown no evidence that you can do it, no plans as to how you'll do it, and we have proof that you can't do it.

Do you have any idea how many people come here almost daily asking about ridiculous things?

Here's a nice little question for you. If this is possible, why hasn't Sony done it already?

Sony can build it,but they can save money by building a psp which is a half ass system for half the price that it would cost to actually build a PS2 that is portable.Its fact the psp can't even run all PS1 games,which clearly shows emulation is not the solution.If it means saving money any major corporation will do it.Sony stripped the PS2 fat version to make the PS2 slim model,which in my opinion isn't great either.The PS3 has fallen into this category as well with the PS2 enigma chip stripped.If you notice the early PS3 60GB models and 20GB models are the only two systems they made that can run PS2 games without emulation.They sell 80GB systems now which use emulation and I think 40GB models.

Sorry man I'm not going to tell you how because for one you clearly show no respect to newcomers and second your mind is set on the design Sony has already created.Therefore there is no point in explaining what can and can't be done to you as you can't get past Sony's work.Do what you do best and pay for Sony products.I don't have to show you anything,which brings the question who the hell do you think you are? So in other words let me get this straight this is a portable game system site,and you think talking about making a portable system is ridiculous? Oh ok then let me get this straight then where is a site that accepts people creating portable game systems,because this clearly isn't what I expect.Please man your bought off on Sony work,of course you believe it can't be done.

Tibia · Post by **Tibia** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 3:07 pm

Ben Cebhrem wrote:Folks, this isn't impossible. It may be unrealistic to fit it into a PSP, sure, but let him learn what this all entails- there's a reason I'm redesigning an NES myself, beyond any potential space saving on the PCB- it's a very valuable learning experience, looking up this and that, learning components as you go.

Keep us posted mate.

I don't recall your NES redesign being proposed with these same unrealistic claims. I also suspect you're going to have an easier time reworking 20 year old technology than something as intricate as a PS2. Even the N64 has multilayer traces. How many layers does a PS2 board already have?

Personally, I'm totally siding with Valium. This is just another bullsh*t claim that'll never get anywhere. I'm not denying the PS2 can't ever be redesigned and smaller, but a PSP? Right. Whatever.

Kyo · Post by **Kyo** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 3:11 pm

Another important aspect is that the video out/controller/power portion of the console-boards is taking up a much smaller percentage of the boards than it used to. Look at the atari, you can hack that up to be tiny, now look at the N64, you can barely remove anything

bacteria · Post by **bacteria** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 4:00 pm

Kyo wrote:Another important aspect is that the video out/controller/power portion of the console-boards is taking up a much smaller percentage of the boards than it used to. Look at the atari, you can hack that up to be tiny, now look at the N64, you can barely remove anything

Indeed, on the N64 apart from removing the plugs for the controllers and video, you can remove the on/off switch and reset and that is about it. There is some grounding you can remove too.

On the PSone board, there is a little around the perimeter and corners, again, that is it.

Post by **Skyone** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 4:13 pm

Kyo wrote:Another important aspect is that the video out/controller/power portion of the console-boards is taking up a much smaller percentage of the boards than it used to. Look at the atari, you can hack that up to be tiny, now look at the N64, you can barely remove anything

However, with the mind of more than a barbarian, you can do more that just rip parts off of the console.