Do we have room for another N64P? (t64 WIP)

Includes but not limited to: SNES, Genesis, Sega CD, PlayStation 1, Nintendo 64, Dreamcast, Game Gear and I guess the Virtual Boy.

Moderator: Moderators

Locked
snowpenguin
Posts: 1306
Joined: Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:10 pm

Re: Do we have room for another N64P? (t64 WIP)

Post by snowpenguin »

If it was me doing this, I would leave out some components so that the board would be tiny, and then do another board to go under it with other stuff including screen, controller boards, fans, etc., then you would only need to plug in a few things for the back and that's it, still very thin, but extremely small the other way as well. Because right now, correct me if I'm wrong, this board is the same size or bigger as a chopped down n64 board, but it includes all this special stuff that could go on a daughter board.

Just me.

Keep it up, I want this done soon Kibble! WORK! :D
Image
kibble
Posts: 439
Joined: Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:41 am

Re: Do we have room for another N64P? (t64 WIP)

Post by kibble »

thewise1 wrote:........
total cost: $300
n64 model used: kibble board (or kibble64)
time built 6 months on and off
... etc. etc.
LOL, kibble board. I like the sound of that! :D
snowpenguin wrote:If it was me doing this, I would leave out some components so that the board would be tiny, and then do another board to go under it with other stuff including screen, controller boards, fans, etc., then you would only need to plug in a few things for the back and that's it
If I can pull off making the full featured board, I'm planning on making a "lite" version that doesn't include anything that's not required, only the core system. By my guess, it would measure about 9x9 cm.
snowpenguin wrote:Keep it up, I want this done soon Kibble! WORK! :D
Just cause I haven't posted lately doesn't mean I haven't worked/haven't been working on it. :P

I don't have any updates really other than I would say I'm about 95% done with it. There's not too much more testing I can do on the electronics side as most of what I wanted to test is already confirmed working and added to the board design. I still need to add some of the smaller components here and there and I will post more updates when I have them but, for now, here's some of the latest pics. Notice the little PTH regulator on the bottom left. ;)

Image

Image
Coming Soon: Kibble's L'Ectroshop (parts and stuff FS)
snowpenguin
Posts: 1306
Joined: Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:10 pm

Re: Do we have room for another N64P? (t64 WIP)

Post by snowpenguin »

Looks great!

Who wants to make the 200th post?

BTW, I was kidding when I said I needed more work :wink: :lol:
Image
nevermind1534
Senior Member
Posts: 1977
Joined: Fri Feb 06, 2009 1:36 pm
Steam ID: nevermind1534
Location: Detroit, MI
Contact:

Re: Do we have room for another N64P? (t64 WIP)

Post by nevermind1534 »

Wow, that looks amazing. I'm definitely buying at least one board if you start selling them.
Kyo wrote:"does anyone here know how to fly a plane?"

"STAND BACK EVERYBODY, I HAVE A FAKE ID"
marshallh
Moderator
Posts: 2986
Joined: Sat Sep 10, 2005 2:17 pm
360 GamerTag: marshallh
Location: here and there
Contact:

Re: Do we have room for another N64P? (t64 WIP)

Post by marshallh »

Looks like you're getting a lot of mileage out of the 2layer board! Nice job. Taking a page out of Nintendo's book when it comes to the SysAD bus :)
Image
dragonhead
Posts: 952
Joined: Sun Apr 04, 2004 4:28 pm
Location: NH, USA

Re: Do we have room for another N64P? (t64 WIP)

Post by dragonhead »

can you take a pic with the printout on top of or next to an originar n64 board, hard to judge how much smaller it is
kibble
Posts: 439
Joined: Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:41 am

Re: Do we have room for another N64P? (t64 WIP)

Post by kibble »

snowpenguin wrote:I was kidding when I said I needed more work :wink: :lol:
I know. I just think it's funny that I was actually working on getting those two new pics up and when I got on to this thread, you guys had already posted before I had a chance to put them up.
marshallh wrote:Looks like you're getting a lot of mileage out of the 2layer board! Nice job. Taking a page out of Nintendo's book when it comes to the SysAD bus :)
The fact that they made everything practically pin-to-pin makes wiring stuff not so bad. I remember the first time I opened up my 64 several years back and thinking to myself: "That's it!?" Suddenly, its light weight was explained. :lol:
dragonhead wrote:can you take a pic with the printout on top of or next to an originar n64 board, hard to judge how much smaller it is
Here ya go!

Image
Coming Soon: Kibble's L'Ectroshop (parts and stuff FS)
rikitheshadow
Posts: 315
Joined: Fri May 09, 2008 12:15 am

Re: Do we have room for another N64P? (t64 WIP)

Post by rikitheshadow »

So lovely <3, and its got all the power components to satisfy the N64's odd specs....freakin 3.3, 5 and 12 volts.....
blaze3927
Portablizer
Posts: 1114
Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:14 am
360 GamerTag: notjames
Location: Australia
Contact:

Re: Do we have room for another N64P? (t64 WIP)

Post by blaze3927 »

Jizz....in my pants....freakin amazing
Australian Kaillera server
[url]hhttp://i56.tinypic.com/ncb0wi.gif[/url]
kibble
Posts: 439
Joined: Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:41 am

Re: Do we have room for another N64P? (t64 WIP)

Post by kibble »

rikitheshadow wrote:So lovely <3, and its got all the power components to satisfy the N64's odd specs....freakin 3.3, 5 and 12 volts.....
Well, not quite. While it is possible to add a 12V step up, I didn't do it only because of lack of space. Besides, the only thing that needed 12V was the audio amp. I'll be replacing that with something else.
anotherperson wrote:Seeing as you've thought about overclocking, have you also looked into undervolting? The 36mbit RDRAM datasheet quotes a minimum of 3.1V and some people have had success running the CPU/RSP at that voltage too. It could kill two birds with one stone: Lower power consumption and less heat output meaning the fan could be scrapped. Maybe I am too optimistic though.
Well, the voltage output is set with the resistor so it's just a matter of giving it a try with a different value. I did play with overclocking my test 64 while running Star Wars RS on it and I noticed that the cutscenes ran ahead of the audio. At one point, the game kept playing music and the game kept showing the same scene but it wouldn't advance to anything else. I'm sure not all games would have this problem but I have yet to try more games while overclocked.
blaze3927 wrote:Jizz....in my pants....freakin amazing
Save that for later, it's not quite done yet. :wink:
Coming Soon: Kibble's L'Ectroshop (parts and stuff FS)
argelfraster
Posts: 984
Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:14 pm
Contact:

Re: Do we have room for another N64P? (t64 WIP)

Post by argelfraster »

Did you make a kind of plug for the cart slot?
I'm guessing its instead of relocation, the cart slot wires will already be like 3-4" long, right?
rikitheshadow
Posts: 315
Joined: Fri May 09, 2008 12:15 am

Re: Do we have room for another N64P? (t64 WIP)

Post by rikitheshadow »

kibble wrote:Well, not quite. While it is possible to add a 12V step up, I didn't do it only because of lack of space. Besides, the only thing that needed 12V was the audio amp. I'll be replacing that with something else.
Hrm, I really would like to see how this comes out. =)
Wish i had expertise like this, oh my i would be tinkering to my whits end!
kibble
Posts: 439
Joined: Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:41 am

Re: Do we have room for another N64P? (t64 WIP)

Post by kibble »

argelfraster wrote:Did you make a kind of plug for the cart slot?
I'm guessing its instead of relocation, the cart slot wires will already be like 3-4" long, right?
The cart slot will be relocated and will connect to that header on the middle of the top side of the board. The cart slot will have its own board that it will be soldered to. There will be a cable assembly to connect the two.
Coming Soon: Kibble's L'Ectroshop (parts and stuff FS)
snowpenguin
Posts: 1306
Joined: Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:10 pm

Re: Do we have room for another N64P? (t64 WIP)

Post by snowpenguin »

rikitheshadow wrote:So lovely <3, and its got all the power components to satisfy the N64's odd specs....freakin 3.3, 5 and 12 volts.....
The n64 only needs 3.3 and 7.2+ volts. If you eliminated the 7805 you should be able to get away with a 5v battery, like an extension li-ion for a psp, good few thousand mAh.
Image
rikitheshadow
Posts: 315
Joined: Fri May 09, 2008 12:15 am

Re: Do we have room for another N64P? (t64 WIP)

Post by rikitheshadow »

5v is never an issue considering the availability of 7805 linear regulators.

It was the 3.3v that kinda gets on me nerves, tons of instructions on the forums for getting that, but its still extra work and another company you have to order from and from there you still have to mod it.
Locked