*Gasp!* (see page 6 for LOB64 pinout!)

[eurddrue]

I'm going to include a LOB64 port into my portable!
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(VVVV) <------I say we use this as the lob64 universal symbol
(^^^^)

[thewise1]

We need to make a standard lob64 pinout so if we do ever meet they will be compatible with a simple internet cord.

We should probably start with mario's since he was the first one to do it. It might also be good to make a slave AND master port.

[Life of Brian]

So, Brian, that's just a standard choke and standard diode, right? Any will do? Does it get rid of all interference? If I load up Ocarina of Time you can see very faint vertical and diagonal lines in the blue sky, rather annoying.

Check out my worklog, I installed the first LOB64 port in my portable.

I don't know about using "just any" choke or diode, but considering I got those parts from a circuit board that came with the screen, I assumed that they were there for that very reason. Turns out I was right.

If you have something on hand, Mario, go for it. I don't see how a wire wrap could hurt anything, so why not try?

The LOB64 name cracks me up. I feel so special I'm please you were able to wire it up without any problems. That is one mighty fine portable you have.

[Mario]

We need to make a standard lob64 pinout so if we do ever meet they will be compatible with a simple internet cord.

We should probably start with mario's since he was the first one to do it. It might also be good to make a slave AND master port.

The standard is on page 6. My drawing showed the standard. One port can act as master and slave.

Brian, can I make a new topic and put the LOB64 standard?

[thewise1]

Yeah, but it should be more well known. Like if someone wires the slave differently, like putting video where the controller data should be.

Anyway why is it called lifeofbrian64, sorry I didn't read the entire topic.

[eagle5953]

I'm going to include a LOB64 port into my portable!
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(VVVV) <------I say we use this as the lob64 universal symbol
(^^^^)

We already have an accepted universal symbol for the LOB64 standard:

We need to make a standard lob64 pinout so if we do ever meet they will be compatible with a simple internet cord.

We already have a standard LOB64 pinout - see page 6.

A "simple internet cord" does not cross any contacts; it merely connects 1:1, 2:2, etc. You would either need a custom crossover cable or an Eagle Dongle:

As far as using a standard crossover cable, it's not going to work:



As you can see, it switches pins 1 and 3 and pins 2 and 6. This would connect video to audio right and audio left to player 2. For a LOB64 crossover cable, you'd need to connect 1:1, 2:2, 3:3, 4:4, and 6:5. The other pins wouldn't matter.

Therefore, short of making drastic changes to the LOB64 specification, normal crossover cables would not work. Custom crossover cables would be necessary.

What would be ideal is this: make an adapter 'dongle' for converting a standard cat5 to LOB64 crossover. It would continue pins 1, 2, 3, and 4, but connect pin 6 to pin 5. Thus, the player 1 input from portable 2 would be sent down the player 2 line.

master portable - standard cat5 - dongle - slave portable

This 'Eagle Dongle' if I may so name it, would eliminate the need for any sort of custom crossover cable while maintaining compatibility with the Klobio Box and the LOB64 standard.

Edit:

Does nobody read previous posts?

[thewise1]

I have seen page 6. I just didn't know if that was the standard yet, I haven't read every single post down to the letter, now please stop rolling your eyes at me.

[palmertech]

8 pages is no reason to go all TL;DR on us.

[thewise1]

I'm sorry TT_TT

[eurddrue]

I know I just like mine better

[Life of Brian]

Pretty certain I changed the topic to "see page 6 for LOB64 pinout".

Yup.

Mario, you put a lot of thought into it - go make an official thread already!

[Mario]

Here you are, Brian. The official guide. http://forums.benheck.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=28633

[Life of Brian]

More fantastical adventures in electronics land:

Stupid unused expansion port. Easy enough to get rid of. Not reusing it for anything, so I did the approved Bacteria method and ABSOLUTELY DESTROYED IT
And then I snipped off the pins like in this picture.


Hmmm......


HMMMM.....


I made some more room for the joystick and buttons by chopping up the LCD's board a bit.


I probably won't use a C-stick, just checking to see if there was space for one.


Look what I discovered! Three cheers for reusing screw post holes! I had to file it a little to get it to fit, but that only took about 30 seconds of work.


The height is perfect, too:




The placement is quite comfortable when holding the unit.

(^man, what a crappy picture!^)

It fits so perfectly I almost want to use this case just for this reason!


These are just some ideas for the case - nothing is set in stone. It's amazing how much of the N64's board can be done away with. If I do use this case, I'll need to trim it a bit more. The cartridge will probably have to stick out the top a bit, too. Also, I would need to do a relocation on the jumper/expansion pak. That's a major con for this case, since I'm making TWO of these. It might not be so bad if I can successfully make a homemade hot air iron, though.

I'm taking it nice and slow for the case design. I even got a couple of Bacteria's cases just to see how they would do. I've got a lot of ideas - we'll see how it all goes.

[eagle5953]

It is sweet how well that fits in the case.

These are just some ideas for the case - nothing is set in stone. It's amazing how much of the N64's board can be done away with. If I do use this case, I'll need to trim it a bit more. The cartridge will probably have to stick out the top a bit, too. Also, I would need to do a relocation on the jumper/expansion pak. That's a major con for this case, since I'm making TWO of these. It might not be so bad if I can successfully make a homemade hot air iron, though.

I'm taking it nice and slow for the case design. I even got a couple of Bacteria's cases just to see how they would do. I've got a lot of ideas - we'll see how it all goes.

I re-read the entire thread, but I don't think you said what it was you were using for a case. What case is this in the pictures, and what case do you think you will use otherwise?

[thewise1]

That's the ag series from polycase.com. I was planning on using that, but seeing as how it's such a tight fit, and you have already trimmed it down, I don't think I'm pro enough yet to use a case that small.