good NES controllers

bluej774 · Post by **bluej774** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:20 pm

I've noticed that many emulators have modes that allow more than eight sprites to appear on the screen at the same time. This eliminates flicker. Can this be done with the actual console? (Or is it in the game code?)

Also, anybody know where I can get good quality NES controllers. I only have one decent one. The rest have been thumb-smashed to death.

lifeisbetterwithketchup · Post by **lifeisbetterwithketchup** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:14 pm

The flicker thing was a limitation of the original NES hardware I believe, so it can be remedied in an emulator, but not on the system itself.

Regarding NES controllers, it's really hit-or-miss. I got two controllers on eBay (together) and they were both practically new (non-destroyed dpad). The one that came with my NES however, was mutilated (or loved to death, take your pick).

bluej774 · Post by **bluej774** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:33 pm

I knew it was a long shot with the hardware flicker thing.

Speaking of the controllers, though, I'm in the same boat. I have three controllers and only one is good.

However, I was speaking of new controllers. Are there any 3rd party controllers that are good quality? I know about the wireless ones from playmessiah, but I don't want wireless ones. I wish they sold their wired ones separately from their systems.

I don't want laggy controllers either. That's my main concern. I've bought various third party wired controllers for various systems and had lag with them. Weird, eh?

lm317 · Post by **lm317** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 12:47 am

the thumb smashiness is caused by the rubber under the buttons being worn
if you unscrew the controller, you can replace the rubber pieces with ones from other controllers like playstation controllers... I used the rubber pieces from a Super Joy III i took apart to fix up one of my NES controllers

THON · Post by **THON** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:07 am

This looks pretty kick ass:

http://www.nintendorepairshop.com/shopexd.asp?id=66

Although why would you use a 3rd party controller on the original system? You might as well use an emulator and buy a USB controller.

jeroen · Post by **jeroen** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:25 am

Well it's a long shot. But in theory you could disable the flicker by putting the nes ppu on an fpga. Not an easy task though. (if you don't have experience with these things)

Kenny_McCormic · Post by **Kenny_McCormic** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:19 pm

jeroen wrote:Well it's a long shot. But in theory you could disable the flicker by putting the nes ppu on an fpga. Not an easy task though. (if you don't have experience with these things)

Kevin Horton did the whole system. http://www.tripoint.org/kevtris/Project ... index.html

bluej774 · Post by **bluej774** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 10:56 pm

jeroen wrote:Well it's a long shot. But in theory you could disable the flicker by putting the nes ppu on an fpga. Not an easy task though. (if you don't have experience with these things)

Yeah... not worth destroying an NES for something that might work, maybe. Besides, I've got too many in-theory side projects as it is. Thanks for the hint, though.

THON wrote:This looks pretty kick ass:

http://www.nintendorepairshop.com/shopexd.asp?id=66

I was looking at those, but I saw a couple of bad reviews on them. Can anyone vouch for them?

THON · Post by **THON** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:47 am

bluej774 wrote:
THON wrote:This looks pretty kick ass:

http://www.nintendorepairshop.com/shopexd.asp?id=66
I was looking at those, but I saw a couple of bad reviews on them. Can anyone vouch for them?

I think they're the same ones this guy used;

http://kmcsonline.com/MHzBBS/viewtopic.php?t=22

jeroen · Post by **jeroen** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:54 am

Kenny_McCormic wrote:
jeroen wrote:Well it's a long shot. But in theory you could disable the flicker by putting the nes ppu on an fpga. Not an easy task though. (if you don't have experience with these things)
Kevin Horton did the whole system. http://www.tripoint.org/kevtris/Project ... index.html

I know but I believe he won't give out the design and code.

G-force · Post by **G-force** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 12:27 am

I actually managed to get my hands on a BOXED, never before played, NES controller! ($5) It was in a 2 controller box set, but there was only the 1 controller , so I imagine theres not much value to it. IT IS SO SHINY!!! Beautiful! But anyways, that was bought at a used game store, I'd reccomend a look around those stores first. Pawn Shops are also good places to find plenty to root through.

Bibin · Post by **Bibin** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 11:04 pm

Post pics of smashed controllers yes?

Mario · Post by **Mario** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:26 pm

THON wrote:Although why would you use a 3rd party controller on the original system? You might as well use an emulator and buy a USB controller.

But where's the fun in that?

Bibin · Post by **Bibin** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:19 pm

His point precisely.

Seaniccus · Post by **Seaniccus** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:21 pm

This is on the same site:

"Exact replica NES controller"
12.00

http://www.nintendorepairshop.com/shope ... =785&bc=no

It's essentially a never-used NES controller.

Or if you live in San Jose, "Gamers in control" sells used controllers for 2.99 a pop, and they've got a ton of them. Your mileage may vary.