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Poll ended at Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:56 pm

Barack Obama
28
36%
John McCain
26
34%
Other
7
9%
No one
3
4%
Zaphod Beeblebrox
5
6%
Me
8
10%
 
Total votes: 77

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Post by Gamelver » Thu Oct 02, 2008 3:35 pm

This poll is basically moot anyway, seeing how a lot of members here can't vote :P. I would even say most...

But I can, and am voting for Obama. Why?

To spite CTF :P. Yes, that's the only reason :o :roll:...
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Post by totokan » Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:26 pm

Paul Muad'Dib. If I'm wasting my vote on a crap candidate or a write-in, might as well pick the one who can be categorized as a hero.
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Post by HBN » Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:27 pm

Motoman wrote:
HBN wrote:McCain : "Violent games should be prohibited by law."

Obama : "Parents should regulate what games their children play."

...

Just take a guess who has my vote. I'm SICK and TIRED of the "Jackian" belief system among politicians.

(FYI : Not quoted perfectly, but it gets the jist of what they were saying.)
I hope to GOD that's not the reason you're supporting Obama. A video game dispute? What about foreign policy? What about their stance on fixing the economic crisis, Iraq/Iran, oil and alternative fuels? Is this what the youth has been reduced to? Political quarrels over video games being the decisive factor when voting? *face-palm*
Well... It is a high-point, IMHO. But no, thats not the only reason. But one of them, thats for sure.
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Post by SpongeBuell » Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:24 pm

Gamelver wrote:To spite CTF :P. Yes, that's the only reason :o :roll:...
Awww, c'mon, Josh is a good guy, you just gotta come to MGC so you can know him. Shame he ruined it for himself by being a Republican, though :P

Hey, Josh, while I think about it... where do you get your news, anti-Obama/Democrat videos, etc? I'm on Digg all the time for that stuff, but I'll be the first to admit that they're way left. I've always wondered what the worst that the right has to say about Obama, other than that false crap about him being a Muslim.

Oh, and for what it's worth, I really have no problem with individual Republicans, just the party as a whole. My two best friends are Republican, and we usually avoid the issues, or approach a few of them with caution.
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Post by CronoTriggerfan » Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:26 pm

Gamelver wrote:To spite CTF :P. Yes, that's the only reason :o :roll:...
Psh, it's all in good fun. :lol: You should see me when I get passionate! :P
FROM TRITON: thats when you want to punch him right in the face! :lol:
HBN wrote:
Motoman wrote:
HBN wrote:McCain : "Violent games should be prohibited by law."

Obama : "Parents should regulate what games their children play."

...

Just take a guess who has my vote. I'm SICK and TIRED of the "Jackian" belief system among politicians.

(FYI : Not quoted perfectly, but it gets the jist of what they were saying.)
I hope to GOD that's not the reason you're supporting Obama. A video game dispute? What about foreign policy? What about their stance on fixing the economic crisis, Iraq/Iran, oil and alternative fuels? Is this what the youth has been reduced to? Political quarrels over video games being the decisive factor when voting? *face-palm*
Well... It is a high-point, IMHO. But no, thats not the only reason. But one of them, thats for sure.
I'm sorry, but if that's even a factor for president, then you don't deserve to vote. XD Besides, I'm sick and tired of people treating a Presidential candidate's opinions like they'll become law. Last time I heard, we still had a checks and balances system in place, and on a speech issue like game regulation, there would be mitigating between all three branches over many years. Besides, this was a hot-button issue back in, what, 1994? It's been all but settled in this day and age, and the only politician who ever actually gave a damn about it, Joe Lieberman, has recognized on numerous occasions that the ESRB already does a fine job and the government need not intervene.

And by the way, guys, I hold nothing against any of you for opinions, and I'm sorry if I seem a bit over-the-top, because the truth is, I am. Some of my close friends are, literally, Communists, but I still think highly of them as individuals. :P And Brian's right, I'm not so extreme in the real world. :lol: As far as where I get my news from, mostly Conservative talk radio, as well as stuff like the Associated Press and the Drudge Report. I listen to Rush Limbaugh and John Gibson for entertainment value, but they're very talking-point oriented. Mark Levin is good if you want invective, but he's not exactly level-headed, either. I actually read a lot of leftist stuff like the Huffington Post to get both sides. I used to a lot more when I was first developing opinions, but instead of daily, it's become more of a once-a-week thing.

Though I gotta say, for anyone out there who is mildly interested in this stuff, especially you, Brian, because you strike me as an objective guy, listen to Dennis Prager. You may not agree with him on everything, but he's truly a wise man and presents very logic-based, calm, and insightful arguments to many mainstream Democratic ideals. Plus, most of his guests are Democrats, so even if you don't like his opinion, you'll get to hear a lot of both sides, which is good.

EDIT: As for you who are worried about the "new" CTFan (which is not really true, I've always been like this, just ask Sky or Triton :) ) I'll go back to my "normal" self once all this election stuff calms down. There's just something magical in the air this time of year...
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Post by Electric Rain » Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:35 pm

CronoTriggerfan wrote:You should see me when I get passionate! :P
...I'd like everyone to take a brief moment out of their political lives to step back, read over that comment a couple times, and grin immaturely. Image
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Post by Gamelver » Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:39 pm

no, you're pretty cool CTF, and not unintelligent ;).

(meaning quite intelligent :o)
:lol: :roll:
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Post by CronoTriggerfan » Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:51 pm

Gamelver wrote:no, you're pretty cool CTF, and not unintelligent ;).

(meaning quite intelligent :o)
:lol: :roll:
You're not very dumb yourself. :lol:

For people who care, this is the best difference between two of the most reasoned thinkers of the left and right. Just go in with an open mind (on both sides) and see what you think.
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Post by marshallh » Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:43 pm

I'm voting McCain
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Post by HBN » Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:25 pm

CronoTriggerfan wrote:
Gamelver wrote:To spite CTF :P. Yes, that's the only reason :o :roll:...
Psh, it's all in good fun. :lol: You should see me when I get passionate! :P
HBN wrote:
Motoman wrote:
HBN wrote:McCain : "Violent games should be prohibited by law."

Obama : "Parents should regulate what games their children play."

...

Just take a guess who has my vote. I'm SICK and TIRED of the "Jackian" belief system among politicians.

(FYI : Not quoted perfectly, but it gets the jist of what they were saying.)
I hope to GOD that's not the reason you're supporting Obama. A video game dispute? What about foreign policy? What about their stance on fixing the economic crisis, Iraq/Iran, oil and alternative fuels? Is this what the youth has been reduced to? Political quarrels over video games being the decisive factor when voting? *face-palm*
Well... It is a high-point, IMHO. But no, thats not the only reason. But one of them, thats for sure.
I'm sorry, but if that's even a factor for president, then you don't deserve to vote.
Use your head, and read between the lines: Its a sign of intelligence. Blaming the people, rather than the software. If hes intelligent about that, then logic dictates that he'll be intelligent about something else.

I honestly cant believe you didn't pick up on that...
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Post by bicostp » Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:05 pm

Obama.

Mainly because I agree with him more on the issues, but also because McCain seems to hold too many of the ideas Bush does, I've seen McCain use religious terms a lot more (separation of church and state?), and (like Jones said) Palin being next in line if McCain dies of old is a scary thought.

Plus, I don't put any more faith in a military president getting us out of a war we shouldn't be in in the first place than I do an oil baron president leading us to energy independence.
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Post by Bay_Wolf » Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:11 pm

Hope everyone is watching the VP debate.

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Post by Electric Rain » Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:51 pm

Yeah, Palin won. A lot.

Sorry. *shrug*
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Post by bicostp » Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:56 pm

What?

She just strung a bunch of buzzwords together and tried to act 'folksy". No substance at all.

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Post by CronoTriggerfan » Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:59 pm

bicostp wrote:What?

She just strung a bunch of buzzwords together and tried to act 'folksy". No substance at all.
Come on, it's a public showing. You know that as well as I. I'd agree that the hometown crap from Palin and these BS personal stories from Biden are disingenuous and don't matter a hell of a lot to me, but they do matter to the masses, and early pollings are showing it. Big time. And Socialist Democrats, pacifist security, UN-dependent, blah, blah, you all know my opinions by now. :lol:
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