7.1 inch 1080p LCD, and a handheld + backpack Xbox 360 idea

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7.1 inch 1080p LCD, and a handheld + backpack Xbox 360 idea

Post by Busterblade » Sun Oct 22, 2006 12:32 am

Hi, I'm new here. I am thinking about making a backpack Xbox 360, possibly with a built in power supply. The video would be output to a small LCD. Sanyo-Epson has recently announced a 7.1 inch, 1080p LCD. I can't find any pricing or release info though, so I emailed them just now. I'll post any info I get. It may also interest people looking for an ultra-ultrasmall screen that they have also made a 2.2 inch TFT LCD that is only 1.1mm thick, and has ultra-low power consumption. Anyway, I am thinking of using that 7.1in screen I mentioned. I want to cut a 360 controller in half and put the screen in between, which I know has been done for various systems before. I would like to make a wireless signal transmitter in the backpack 360, and a receiver in the handheld. Of course I would need a battery then. So, could you give me some advice and ideas to start with? I also want to try and integrate the Xbox Live Vision Camera (either clip on or built in). I want to use a wireless Xbox Live headset. Does that interface with the controller or console? Do I need to build a receiver for it into the handheld? Could I make the handheld able to play PS3 games as well? I prefer the 360 controller, which is very ergonomic and solid, so could I wire both systems' controls to each button, and have some sort of switch? I realize that I would have to integrate the PS3 six-axis, which I think should be placed in the center behind the screen. And could I make a camera such as Vision, or the PS3 equivalent (PS3 EyeToy?), work with both systems somehow? Because the Wii is unique, I doubt my project will function with a Wii. But you never know. I have never made a console mod before, and right now I am just in the brainstorming phase. What kind of power supply do you reccomend for the handheld, and for the backpack system? The Sanyo 7.1 inch is a low power model, so I imagine the handheld should use power comparable to a PSP. Thanks in advance for any help.

PS: Maybe this should be somewhere else, but this is a screen-oriented project, so I thought it should be placed here.
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Post by Ari » Sun Oct 22, 2006 5:26 pm

I don't know anything about the controller interface and all of that stuff, but I'm geussing it'd be pretty hard to interface with that LCD. I'm geussing it's designed for use in portable blu-ray players or something, but anyways, it's not designed for hackers working at home. So that means digital input. I don't think you want to build an interface board that converts an RGB signal to something that LCD can use.

And as for streaming 1080p wirelessly... it's not going to happen.
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Post by Gump-in-space » Sun Oct 22, 2006 6:09 pm

Please split your paragraphs up when you post, big black boxes of text hurt the eyes.
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Post by bicostp » Sun Oct 22, 2006 6:39 pm

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Seriously. This idea, while creative, is very impractical.

The only way to run the 360 off batteries for any extended period of time (as far as I can imagine) would be to use a car battery, or perhaps a really beefy UPS for computers. You'd be carrying around 50 pounds of batteries, plus the weight of the game consoles. Would you build this in a backpack with extra supports, or into its own wheelbarrow?

You can make it play PS3 games too, but you would have to wire all the buttons to the PS3 controller board and also integrate the gyro sensors (or whatever it uses), and seeing a screen you're moving around will probably be a pain. (and of course you would need an entire PS3, so this whole setup would contain about $1200 worth of parts, and running from muggers will be near imposible...)
The Sanyo 7.1 inch is a low power model, so I imagine the handheld should use power comparable to a PSP
Maybe for just the screen. The game consoles will pull a lot more than that.

Just stick to easy things like an NOACp or a SNESp.

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Post by Busterblade » Sun Oct 22, 2006 8:25 pm

Okay, thanks guys. I didn't even think about the screen tilting around. And yes, power would be a huge issue. I now realize that this would be even more difficult than another Xbox 360 laptop, which of course is not easy by any means. Well, back to the drawing board.
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Post by Ness » Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:15 pm

Also, if it were possible, you forgot one other important factor....heat!!! 360 gets hot and being in a backpack...imagine it catching on fire while on your back!! :shock:
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Post by Krepticor » Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:53 pm

well the issue of heat could be settled with some clever engineering, Main issue would be that of movement...

Do you know the strain placed on your knees? and that the human body itself is an engineering marvel?

however, this is mainly because the force is distributed evenlythroughout the body because the human body is mostly water...

Now that is my issue, the hands can counteract the force, the back is where most of the force concentrates so the 360pack is impractical, however, if you make a laptop, so that you play it witout motion,( I kno Ben's Idea but it is the most practical) A handHeld would work, but is just was too big...

Also, if you do go laptop...Aluminum casing is 100% the way to go, the strength and the resouce for heatsink (and ground) would be ideal

Hope this helps (kudos on the 7.1 in Hi-Def LCD since the 360 is kinda bland without the HD capabilities)
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