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b_w_johan
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Video Amp

Post by b_w_johan » Tue Dec 22, 2009 7:02 am

Okee, so i encountered a mini problem :)

i'd liked to finish my portable today, but i seem to be missing the 2N4401 amp :/
I've loads of parts all over the place, but i can't find this item :S

Any chance this can be changed?! i've been reading arround on Mario's instructable and here http://www.gamesx.com/rgbadd/nes2avmod.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
here is gives another partname (don't have thisone either :S)

Is there a formula to follow ?

I've found on wiki there is a math thingy to calculate the amplifying transistor, so maybe i can figure out a way to use one of my parts combined with different resistors ??

Or should i just post a list of transistors i have?? or is there a website wich converts the transistor code to some numbers so i can follow the formula?

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Re: Video Amp

Post by b_w_johan » Tue Dec 22, 2009 7:03 am

maybe a stupid question XD

Is the 2n4401 included in the old RFbox thingy? - edit: I have the PAL version, not sure if that makes it different?

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Re: Video Amp

Post by goodie » Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:14 am

You can try using any NPN transistor. Some will work, some won't.
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Re: Video Amp

Post by b_w_johan » Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:16 am

using the same principe? the same 2 resistors and a NPN ?

If it doesn't work, can i damage the screen and or the NES ?

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Re: Video Amp

Post by b_w_johan » Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:17 am

Okee, found some searchengine for parts.

the 2N4401 - http://pdf1.alldatasheet.com/datasheet- ... N4401.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



some of my parts:

bc238 - http://pdf1.alldatasheet.com/datasheet- ... BC238.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

tkf bc548c
tkf bc547b
http://pdf1.alldatasheet.com/datasheet- ... C547B.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


c1815 bl3b - http://pdf1.alldatasheet.com/datasheet- ... C1815.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A1015 gr2k - http://pdf1.alldatasheet.com/datasheet- ... A1015.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I've got more of them, but if someone please could tell me what numbers are importand i know what to look for, these tables don't tell me anything :S

Any chance one of those transistors will work?

And if i could use one of these, do i need the same 2 resistors? or stronger/lower ones ? :D

I'm only needing this part then i can continue soldering it together and start the case part.

Thanks for your time


--edit fixed broken links.

--edit2: Here is a complete list of all transistor thingy's i could find


TFK
BC5
47B
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(/) A (een of ander symbooltje)
B C
238
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TFK
BC5
48C
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A673
3-K
-----
A1015
GR 2k
-----
C1815
BL 3B
-----
C4258
GR BG
-----
C2705
F86L
-----
A1175
F86L
-----
D1302
S BT
-----
B562
C
2B 2
-----
TI201BD
TL431C
MEXICO
-----
MPS
2222
(motorola)740 (motorola M symbool)
-----
BS
170
(motorola)743
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C3383
S5A
-----
115
4XF
-----
D612 K
E 4L
-----
NEC
D794 Q
D 4X
-----
TL431
CLP
(motorola)744

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C2458
GRBE
-----
608
E80
-----
3399
4L
-----
/_\N (driehoek symbool)
B774
R45 (5 kan ook een kleine S met een streepje eronder)
-----
603
46F
-----
C2320
49F
-----
D863
F-4L
-----
1012
G 5A
-----
603
46Q
-----
1012
H 4L
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C2274
KF4J

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Re: Video Amp

Post by b_w_johan » Wed Dec 23, 2009 1:22 pm

ok so found a shop nearby wich sells transistors, not the 2n4401 :S

other suggestions to pick then?

http://www.dil.nl/ShowByIndex.aspx?Lang ... %2f139%2f5" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

also found this topic http://forums.benheck.com/viewtopic.php ... 70&start=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; but i don't have the 2n2222 or 3904 in my list nor can i find it on the dil.nl website :S

Okee, please could someone give me a suggestion ? my parents are getting grumpy :lol: the livingroom is full with parts all over :P if i can get some advice by this night ( i guess this day if youre in the US ) i can finish tomorrow just before christmas eve' :lol:

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Re: Video Amp

Post by goodie » Wed Dec 23, 2009 3:05 pm

Just try using the transistors and resistors that you have. As long as they are NPN type, it's not very likely that it would break anything.
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Re: Video Amp

Post by akaviolence » Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:11 pm

Dont use that circuit, its crap. Use this one:
http://darthcloud.da.funpic.org/img/bypass.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Are you using a top loader board?
Read this thread to get the full story about the video mod.
http://nesdev.parodius.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=601" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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My NES-101 website.

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Re: Video Amp

Post by Rekarp » Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:31 am

that mod sucks imo. I will post the "better" mod for the NES2 when i am not incapacitated.
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Re: Video Amp

Post by b_w_johan » Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:23 am

I was looking all over the internet for video amp + nes, didn't notice it wasn't about the "normal" NES.

Today i visited a shop, and they gave me the following part wich should be similar.

CTBC
337-25
LE

I'm now finishing the 7.5V > 5V step and then i can test this new transistor.

Thanks for the reply's

Johan

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