The best way to fixe a 3 RRDOD?

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Re: The best way to fixe a 3 RRDOD?

Post by humakabula1 » Sat Sep 11, 2010 1:36 am

ya that should be ok.
if it doesn't work cut the temp trace

EDIT:
i got mixed up with another code :P
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Re: The best way to fixe a 3 RRDOD?

Post by ssmith43654 » Sat Sep 11, 2010 1:40 am

Ok, thanks for your help.
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Re: The best way to fixe a 3 RRDOD?

Post by ssmith43654 » Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:41 am

I have just done a reflow and it still hasn't worked, i followed all the steps very carefully and did it properly.

I think i need a reball - where can I get this done?

it is really annoying!!!! :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

What do I do?
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Re: The best way to fixe a 3 RRDOD?

Post by humakabula1 » Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:00 am

A reball would be best done by a pro, ask around your area and see if there are any repair services, you might be able to simple google a reball specialist in your area.
That kinda sucks that the reflow didnt work...
At least you dont have a 0001, they are damn annoying to repair.
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Re: The best way to fixe a 3 RRDOD?

Post by ssmith43654 » Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:04 am

I found this -

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RRoD-Xbox360-Refl ... 35ac85fda0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

do you think the price is reasonable for a raball and do you think they will take a modded xbox motherboard and heatsinks only ( it is modded because I am making a xbox 360 laptop)

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Re: The best way to fixe a 3 RRDOD?

Post by Harlequin » Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:36 am

The prices for a reball are approx $100 USD. This is pretty close to the cost of a new 360 altogether.

Since this is potentially going to raise the price of your 360 laptop considerably, I would sit and think hard on it. They also do not provide 100% assurance that your unit will be returned in working order.

By the same token, if you get a reball done and it works, so long as they use lead based solder you will likely never have to worry about the 3 RROD due to cold solder joints again.... This could be handy in a laptop.

Tough call, especially since the new 360s that have come out have the combo CPU/GPU that might not even encounter a similar issue with adequate cooling (perhaps modded up for liquid)

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Re: The best way to fixe a 3 RRDOD?

Post by ssmith43654 » Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:34 am

The reball will cost me £49 which is 77.94$. So it isnt as much as a new console. :o

I have also spent lots of work on that motherboard and if I were to replace it I would need to do that all over again and I would need a whole new dvd drive. :)

The service on ebay that i am looking at only contacts and charges you once it has been fixed. If they dont fix it you dont pay any money. :wink:

Also the error code is 0022 which is a gpu problem so a reball should most likely work. :D

Thanks for your help - do you still think I should buy a new console?? :roll: :?: :P
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Re: The best way to fixe a 3 RRDOD?

Post by Harlequin » Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:35 am

up to you, I would look into tightening down all of your heatsinks with new thermal paste after a reflow of the ram/gpu on both sides with 1/2 an hour inbetween flipping it over (at least).

Then I would look at getting a new console, because if that didn't fix it, likely not much will. If they only charge once it is verrified working, then it's not a big risk.

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Re: The best way to fixe a 3 RRDOD?

Post by humakabula1 » Fri Sep 24, 2010 3:21 am

$100us for a reball?! :shock:

i soak up all the business in my area because i only charge $50au (~$45us) 8)
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Re: The best way to fixe a 3 RRDOD?

Post by Haunted360 » Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:08 am

*sigh* THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS PERMANENT!!!

But, if you want to 'get it running' for about a Week to 3 Months (Depending on Conditions), then


1 ) Remove ALL Thermal Paste,

2 ) Clean with Isopropyl Alcohol the GPU and CPU,

4 ) Apply Flux, to the side of the CPU and GPU BGA's (Ball Grid Align. This is where the Solder Crack(s) are),

5 ) Heat the Flux (EG: For 5 seconds) just to make the Flux flow under the CPU and GPU BGA's while holding the board upright, until it comes out the other side. Now, place the MoBo (PCB) as flat as possible. Usually, it is a good idea to put it under something solid, and not something that will melt,

6 ) Heat Gun the CPU first, at 215 Degrees Celsius for 15 Seconds. Make sure, that you go in a 'square' motion and not in one place. Also, the PCB (MoBo) will make 'cracking' sounds. This is normal. It will also do it when it cools, so don't freak out!,

7 ) DO NOT TOUCH OR MOVE THE BOARD! ... Continue happily ...,

8 ) Heat Gun the GPU second, at 220 Degrees Celsius for 15 Seconds,

9 ) Let the board cool for 30 Minutes. DO NOT TOUCH, OR MOVE IT WHILE IT IS COOLING!

10 ) Test it by plugging the board in, and turning it on for 10 seconds max. Just so you can see that 'Green' light show for you :wink:

11 ) Assemble with FRESH Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Paste (A nice thin layer. Just enough so it does not show the Metallic Chip) and the X-Clamp Mod (Screws / Bolts, Washers etc).

This also works for PS3 (of course), however - you can not do the test. You have to assemble it all the way to the PSU in order to test it. Also, bend the stock clamps slightly to add pressure to the Heatsinks that press against the C/GPU).

Enjoy!

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Re: The best way to fixe a 3 RRDOD?

Post by ssmith43654 » Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:22 am

Thankyou very much for everones help and also haunted360!!

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Re: The best way to fixe a 3 RRDOD?

Post by humakabula1 » Thu Sep 30, 2010 3:35 am

Haunted360 wrote:*sigh* THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS PERMANENT!!!
so true!
people over on seven7sins believe there is a permanent fix...i call it the x-clamp fix, total bullsh!t

re-balling should get it going for at least 6 months.
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Re: The best way to fixe a 3 RRDOD?

Post by Harlequin » Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:15 am

There are a few ways to fix it "permanently"

1. replace with new 360 via exchange program.
2. replace with new system altogether...


ok so here is the "other" way to fix it. Reball the GPU, replace the case with a larger case, or keep the same case but replace the heatsink for the GPU with a water cooled unit. mod your existing case to add in the addtl 60 mm front intake fan. use your box in a horizontal position rather than a vertical one.

Of the 7 reasons the RROD occurs, most of them are beaten by reducing the heat of the box. Replacing the case, or water cooling the existing unit resolves most of these issues. reballing the GPU corrects one of the other "majors" and leaves you with zinc solder whiskers being the culprit. Reducing the issue down to 1 of 7 potential causes is as close as I think we can get short of someone stripping all solder off of a 360 and replacing it with lead based solder...

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Re: The best way to fixe a 3 RRDOD?

Post by ssmith43654 » Thu Sep 30, 2010 12:20 pm

So do you think It would be better to do a reball and how long will a reball last?
Or shall I get a new jasper motherboard and where/what price can I get these for?
What are the xbox 360 "swap" programs called and how do I do them
(remember this motherboard will be in a xbox 360 laptop.
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Re: The best way to fixe a 3 RRDOD?

Post by humakabula1 » Thu Sep 30, 2010 4:37 pm

reballing lasts longer.

not even getting a new system gives you a guarantee it will be ok, 100% of xbox 360 consoles get rrod sometime in its life.
now THATS a guarantee :wink:
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