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Lithium Polymer Batteries -- How to wire and what to buy.

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:12 pm
by hailrazer
Lithium Polymer batteries are the newest and currently one of the best choices for batteries in a portable. They are smaller than other batteries, don't develop a "memory" , and last through more charges/discharges than other types of batteries.

But working with Lithium Polymer batteries can be dangerous and precautions must be observed. Be very careful with polarity when hooking up Li-Po's. Also ALWAYS use a protection circuit (PCB) and a Lithium charger that is appropriate for the number of Li-Po's you will be using.

Lithium Polymer batteries come as single 3.7v cells. These cells can be packed together to get 7.4v , 11.1v, 14.8v , etc Li-Po Packs.
When using a 7.4v pack you will want a 7.4v Pcb and a 7.4v charger. Ditto on the rest.

The following diagrams will be based on wiring the 3.7v cells in series to add their voltages together to get the required voltages we need. Batteries wired in series are wired like so :

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This is the typical battery most of us use because it has a relatively high capacity for a very small size and cheap price:
http://www.batteryspace.com/polymerli-i ... isted.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Here is an example on how to wire the different sets of Li-Po packs you might be using :

7.4v pack. (Two 3.7v Li-Po's)
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For the Pcb you will need the following :
http://www.batteryspace.com/pcbfor74vli ... limit.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

For the charger you will need the following:
http://www.batteryspace.com/smartcharge ... isted.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

11.1v pack (Three 3.7v Li-Po's) :
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For the Pcb you will need the following :
http://www.batteryspace.com/pcbfor111vl ... ocket.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

For the charger you will need the following:
http://www.batteryspace.com/smartcharge ... isted.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

14.8v pack (Four 3.7v Li-Po's) :

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For the Pcb you will need the following :
http://www.batteryspace.com/pcbfor148vl ... ocket.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

For the charger you will need the following:
http://www.batteryspace.com/smartcharge ... isted.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Lithium Polymer Batteries -- How to wire and what to buy.

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:16 pm
by limpport
Very nice. I've been wondering how to hook up batteries higher than 7.2v. This is extremely helpful! :D

Re: Lithium Polymer Batteries -- How to wire and what to buy.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:21 pm
by nobble
Where do you get the charging port for the smart charger to plug into?

Re: Lithium Polymer Batteries -- How to wire and what to buy.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:03 pm
by hailrazer
nobble wrote:Where do you get the charging port for the smart charger to plug into?
I make my own with type M jacks from Radio Shack :
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index ... Id=2102491" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index ... id=prod_cs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Lithium Polymer Batteries -- How to wire and what to buy.

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:35 pm
by nobble
Say I wanted to hook up 4 of those 3.7v batteries but still have 7.4 volts total. how would this be accomplished?

EDIT: nvm i think i found out how very cheap.

Re: Lithium Polymer Batteries -- How to wire and what to buy.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:22 pm
by samjc3
so, do these pcbs/ smart chargers work with lithium ion cells too?

Re: Lithium Polymer Batteries -- How to wire and what to buy.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:28 pm
by hailrazer
Yes.

Re: Lithium Polymer Batteries -- How to wire and what to buy.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:33 pm
by samjc3
hailrazer wrote:Yes.
ok good. now i can use this hueg li-ion battery pack i got a the ircuit city closing sale for 2.50$. :mrgreen:

Re: Lithium Polymer Batteries -- How to wire and what to buy.

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:39 am
by gamemasterful
How would you hook up two 7.4v Li-ion packs?

Re: Lithium Polymer Batteries -- How to wire and what to buy.

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:45 am
by limpport
gamemasterful wrote:How would you hook up two 7.4v Li-ion packs?
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The picture on the bottom. Connect them in parallel.

Re: Lithium Polymer Batteries -- How to wire and what to buy.

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:22 pm
by gamemasterful
I meant to the board. Would I just buy the first pcb listed and skip over the COM? Or is there another I should buy.

Re: Lithium Polymer Batteries -- How to wire and what to buy.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 12:05 am
by limpport
Ah, ok! From his picture for the 7.4v protection circuit, hook up both positives to the B+ part and both negatives to the B- part. The Com (common) won't matter, because that is only for batteries in series.

Re: Lithium Polymer Batteries -- How to wire and what to buy.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 12:25 am
by gamemasterful
Awesome! So to be clear;
1) Do NOT parallel them and attach the positives to B+, and negatives to B-
or
2) DO parallel them and attach them as you said?

Re: Lithium Polymer Batteries -- How to wire and what to buy.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:49 am
by limpport
gamemasterful wrote:Awesome! So to be clear;
1) Do NOT parallel them and attach the positives to B+, and negatives to B-
or
2) DO parallel them and attach them as you said?
#2. Parallel, and attach positives and negatives to their respective spots.

Re: Lithium Polymer Batteries -- How to wire and what to buy.

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 4:39 pm
by Warp
These batteries from batteryspace are interresting but shipping it to europe is too expensive... does anyone know where to buy good batteries in europe ?