New PC in old case(dinosaur laptop)

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New PC in old case(dinosaur laptop)

Post by abferm » Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:19 pm

Hi! I came across a LapPRO 386SX. At first I wanted to refurbish it, but I'm not going to pay $120 for a refurbished HDD to put in it. The thing is huge and I was thinking I might be able to fit desktop components in there. I will, however need some help from someone who has done similar things before in interfacing to/replacing the display, keyboard, power supply, and battery(original is dead).

If anyone knows where I can find a 100 MB ATA HDD for a decent price, I will definitely refurbish the machine and keep it as is.

Likewise, if anyone would like to purchase it, I have all the original parts(as far as I know). The only thing I know is bad is the HDD. When plugged in the PC will boot to the bios and ask for a bootable floppy disk. It will not run unless plugged in, so I think the battery is dead. I have opened the case and used another machine to test the HDD. It failed miserably. It has a modem. It uses a standard PC power cable(like the ones used for desktops) and has a car charging cord. I have the original carry bag as well. If I have to ship it the shipping itself will cost a fortune, this thing is by no means small or light.

If you know someone who could help me, know where I could get a replacement HDD, or would like to buy this dinosaur please let me know.

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Re: New PC in old case(dinosaur laptop)

Post by bicostp » Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:31 pm

If you put desktop components in it you're bound to run into serious heat issues. You would also have to find another screen, as you won't be able to reuse the laptop's original LCD. You could probably get around the heat problems by using a nettop motherboard (but then it wouldn't be much faster than a netbook, and the screen would still be an issue).

Instead of finding an old hard drive, get a 2 gig CompactFlash card and a CF-IDE adapter. Chop it up into four 500 MB partitions, load up DOS and Windows 3.1, and you'll still have more space than the computer will know what to do with. 8) I've done this with an old AT Pentium desktop PC and a PowerBook 1400; it's a great source of cheap, durable storage for old computers. (As a bonus, you can take the card out, put it in a USB reader, and load your files onto it without having to futz around with floppies and null modem cables.)

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Re: New PC in old case(dinosaur laptop)

Post by abferm » Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:26 pm

I am trying to get it to work with a 1.5GB HDD. When I boot DOS and use fdisk, all I get is an error message saying "No fixed disks present." Do I need some sort of a prep boot disk so I can use the HDD? I can't help but think I would have the same problem with a cf card, so I think I need to try to get it working with this HDD first.

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Re: New PC in old case(dinosaur laptop)

Post by Snow_Cat » Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:54 pm

I've done everything on your list, with the desktop harddisc in/with a laptop being the most recent.
Spoiler:
I had another hard drive fail in the marginally effective HP Data Protection System™ :wtf:

Having run out of laptop drives and not willing to lose any more time I went ahead and installed one out of an old file server.
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Inside the HP Mobile Data Destruction System a PATA cable has been jumpered into the 2.5" pin/cardedge adaptor. This leads to a common 3.5" harddrive from an old server, that was retired because it has a (super loud) failing spindle bearing. This is in turn connected to a 12V/5V powersupply from a harddrive enclosure.
The IOCS16 line is not present in the "system" connector requiring a seperate hook-up to establish contact between the HD and CD drives.
This is the part that took an afternoon, and I am quite pleased with it though the washer and garage door opener can knock it out. The fruitless search for my genuine XP SP3 and Office 2007 discs only turned up the reciepts, and not one of the three sets of backups stored in separate locations took the better part of this last week. :wtf:
As this is the third set of ligitimate, registered and lisenced software that has been "lost" I believe that installing a wallsafe will be the next project after I make a less vibration sensitive PCB version of this adaptor, and make a battery powered power supply for this drive if its death song doesn't reach a climax too soon. song.datacent.comFailing harddrive sounds is exactly the same. :lol:
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I've already hacksawed the necessary connectors loose, it's only a matter of getting around to printing a new PCB now.
You will need to get the BIOS configured for your disc.

There may be finding dewassoc.com Hard Drive Size Limitations and Barriers;
Fortunatly there is a guide to the dewassoc.com Possible Symptoms and Solutions for Basic Barriers.

I do not know where my copies of Ez-Drive (Micro-House/WD) got to, however you should be able to find a copy. It made installint a 2.1GB, and later a 8.6 GB hard drive in my old 386 very easy. It also allows manipulation of formatting and moving sectors between harddrives. While I was still with the HDSB I built a 60MB master image with (Windows 95 + Corel + Autodesk + MS Office) even though the minimum instalation sizes for each of those was stated to be larger than the discs I had to intall onto.



The 386 remained in production for some 20 years, however pinout compatible upgrades for desktops are increasingly rare, if you want to upgrade it may be necessary to make some form of passthrough (and voltage level) adaptor.


There is a physical limit of 256MB for the main system memory because a desktop 386 CPU cannot address more than that. And the actual limit is very often lower because many motherboards do not have the necessary address lines, and some that do have BIOSes that fail with too much memory.

I may have the appropriate modules to upgrade your memory, IF I have not already given all of it away.

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