My (WIP) Version of the Interactive LED Coffee Table.
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EDIT: Here is a video for y'all. (Hosted on Tinypic, Photobucket is down right now)
LED Fader Video
So maybe you've seen the interactive LED coffee table by Evil Mad Scientist Labs. It's an awesome project, and I'd really like to build one. Unfortunately, their DIY version is $430 for eight solder-it-yourself (SIY) panels! This is way too expensive for me, so I tried to figure out a way to replicate that effect cheaply.
Well, almost replicate it.
If you watch their video, the lights twinkle and pulse... Certainly a very nice looking effect, but really not cheap or easy because you have to program microcontrollers, and I have no experience in that.
So, I created a similar solution out of passive components.
Here is a circuit I soldered together when I was about 8:
Don't worry, my soldering is MUCH better now. But what this circuit does is make a LED light up and then dim when you touch the two protruding wires together.
That was all good, but now I need some way to activate it with a wave of my hand. I figured a dark sensor would work well for the task. After a bit of searching, I found this simple circuit on Evil Mad Scientist Labs:
Combine the two, and you have an LED that goes full brightness then dims slowly when you wave your hand over it. In case you missed that, I mated a night light with an LED fader.
I then proceeded to make the circuit on a breadboard, which unfortunately I did not get a picture of. But, here is the finished product:
Keep in mind this is a prototype, and the CDS cell is quite insensitive. It will be replaced with a phototransistor. These are very sensitive to light (So the table can work in dimmer rooms). Now all I have to do is order a ton of parts online and make about 30 of these...
By the way, here is a schematic I drew up, in case you want to make your own: (Full version here)
The 100uf capacitor can be adjusted. If it's bigger, the LED will stay lit longer (fade slower), and vise versa.
The 47k resistor can also be adjusted. If it's bigger, the circuit is more sensitive to light (needs less light to operate). There is a limit, though, but I don't know what it is. Just don't go over 100k. If you make that resistor smaller, then you need more light.
I will post a video soon of it's operation.
LED Fader Video
So maybe you've seen the interactive LED coffee table by Evil Mad Scientist Labs. It's an awesome project, and I'd really like to build one. Unfortunately, their DIY version is $430 for eight solder-it-yourself (SIY) panels! This is way too expensive for me, so I tried to figure out a way to replicate that effect cheaply.
Well, almost replicate it.
If you watch their video, the lights twinkle and pulse... Certainly a very nice looking effect, but really not cheap or easy because you have to program microcontrollers, and I have no experience in that.
So, I created a similar solution out of passive components.
Here is a circuit I soldered together when I was about 8:
Don't worry, my soldering is MUCH better now. But what this circuit does is make a LED light up and then dim when you touch the two protruding wires together.
That was all good, but now I need some way to activate it with a wave of my hand. I figured a dark sensor would work well for the task. After a bit of searching, I found this simple circuit on Evil Mad Scientist Labs:
Combine the two, and you have an LED that goes full brightness then dims slowly when you wave your hand over it. In case you missed that, I mated a night light with an LED fader.
I then proceeded to make the circuit on a breadboard, which unfortunately I did not get a picture of. But, here is the finished product:
Keep in mind this is a prototype, and the CDS cell is quite insensitive. It will be replaced with a phototransistor. These are very sensitive to light (So the table can work in dimmer rooms). Now all I have to do is order a ton of parts online and make about 30 of these...
By the way, here is a schematic I drew up, in case you want to make your own: (Full version here)
The 100uf capacitor can be adjusted. If it's bigger, the LED will stay lit longer (fade slower), and vise versa.
The 47k resistor can also be adjusted. If it's bigger, the circuit is more sensitive to light (needs less light to operate). There is a limit, though, but I don't know what it is. Just don't go over 100k. If you make that resistor smaller, then you need more light.
I will post a video soon of it's operation.
Last edited by Mario on Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:08 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Thanks, both of you. I added a video:
http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=2ltoymq&s=4
I don't have any phototransistors right now, so I had to use the one from a sensor lab thing I got a couple years ago. Once I do get one, it will be mounted in the center of the board.
http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=2ltoymq&s=4
I don't have any phototransistors right now, so I had to use the one from a sensor lab thing I got a couple years ago. Once I do get one, it will be mounted in the center of the board.
Last edited by Mario on Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:30 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Looked up all the parts online. I am going to order enough parts to make 50, even though I probably won't make that many. Here are the costs so far:
50 510ohm Resistors - $4.00
50 47k Resistors - $2.50
50 10k Resistors - $3.00
50 100k Resistors - $2.50
100 2N4401 Transistors - $10.00
50 100uf Capacitors - $9.00
200 Blue 6000mcd LEDs - $22.00
Total - $53.00
I am having trouble finding places to buy CDS Cells and 2-pin right-angle connectors. Can anybody help out?
50 510ohm Resistors - $4.00
50 47k Resistors - $2.50
50 10k Resistors - $3.00
50 100k Resistors - $2.50
100 2N4401 Transistors - $10.00
50 100uf Capacitors - $9.00
200 Blue 6000mcd LEDs - $22.00
Total - $53.00
I am having trouble finding places to buy CDS Cells and 2-pin right-angle connectors. Can anybody help out?
Where are you buying those? The store where I buy crap is way cheaper
edit: I did a little price check. Everything with exception of the LEDs is cheaper:
50 510ohm Resistors - $4.00
€1.65 - $2.11
€1.90 for 100
€5.00 for 1000
50 47k Resistors - $2.50
€1.65 - $2.11
€1.90 for 100
€5.00 for 1000
50 10k Resistors - $3.00
€1.65 - $2.11
€1.90 for 100
€5.00 for 1000
50 100k Resistors - $2.50
€1.65 - $2.11
€1.90 for 100
€5.00 for 1000
100 2N4401 Transistors - $10.00
(substitute: 2N3904) €4.00 - $5.12
50 100uf Capacitors - $9.00
€2.55 - $3.26
don't you guys have good alternatives to digikey?
edit: I did a little price check. Everything with exception of the LEDs is cheaper:
50 510ohm Resistors - $4.00
€1.65 - $2.11
€1.90 for 100
€5.00 for 1000
50 47k Resistors - $2.50
€1.65 - $2.11
€1.90 for 100
€5.00 for 1000
50 10k Resistors - $3.00
€1.65 - $2.11
€1.90 for 100
€5.00 for 1000
50 100k Resistors - $2.50
€1.65 - $2.11
€1.90 for 100
€5.00 for 1000
100 2N4401 Transistors - $10.00
(substitute: 2N3904) €4.00 - $5.12
50 100uf Capacitors - $9.00
€2.55 - $3.26
don't you guys have good alternatives to digikey?
Last edited by Kyo on Wed Nov 26, 2008 2:38 pm, edited 1 time in total.
I'm talking about http://reichelt.de , actually
It's an online store, but it's really cheap. I guess that's one thing where germany has an advantage
It's an online store, but it's really cheap. I guess that's one thing where germany has an advantage
Okay, I did some math and came up with a few things.
First, the prototype I built is 2"x2". To make a one foot by one foot table, I would need to make 36 little modules! Holy cow!
So I decided I am going to double the size to 4x4. That way, the "resolution" is still fairly decent, and I won't need to make nearly as many. Now, to make a 1x1 table, I'll need to make 9 modules. Much better than before.
I'm probably going to make a small 2'x2' table. For that I need to make 36 modules. I am only going to order parts for 40 now, so that changes the prices to:
50 510ohm Resistors - $3.20
50 47k Resistors - $2.00
50 10k Resistors - $2.40
50 100k Resistors - $2.00
100 2N4401 Transistors - $8.00
50 100uf Capacitors - $7.20
200 Blue 6000mcd LEDs - $22.00
Total - $46.80
First, the prototype I built is 2"x2". To make a one foot by one foot table, I would need to make 36 little modules! Holy cow!
So I decided I am going to double the size to 4x4. That way, the "resolution" is still fairly decent, and I won't need to make nearly as many. Now, to make a 1x1 table, I'll need to make 9 modules. Much better than before.
I'm probably going to make a small 2'x2' table. For that I need to make 36 modules. I am only going to order parts for 40 now, so that changes the prices to:
50 510ohm Resistors - $3.20
50 47k Resistors - $2.00
50 10k Resistors - $2.40
50 100k Resistors - $2.00
100 2N4401 Transistors - $8.00
50 100uf Capacitors - $7.20
200 Blue 6000mcd LEDs - $22.00
Total - $46.80
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If you've got the time to wait on the LEDs, check this out. You can get four lots of those for about $16 shipped. I just wanted to point that out as a way to trim your costs.
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U.S. dollars? I was going to buy 2 lots of 100 from the Asia Engineer... They were $11 each, shipped.Tibia wrote:If you've got the time to wait on the LEDs, check this out. You can get four lots of those for about $16 shipped. I just wanted to point that out as a way to trim your costs.
EDIT: Also, got a place to buy CDS cells?
Okay, It's impossible to find CDS cells online. I've decided that I'll just have to go with phototransistors.
As for buying perfboard in large quantities, it's not gonna happen. I guess I'll have to use small pieces of perfboard to solder the components on to, than add extension wires to the LEDs and glue them down. I can't find 4"x4" squares of perfboard for a decent price.
As for buying perfboard in large quantities, it's not gonna happen. I guess I'll have to use small pieces of perfboard to solder the components on to, than add extension wires to the LEDs and glue them down. I can't find 4"x4" squares of perfboard for a decent price.