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Post by phantom92opera » Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:43 am

hey guys, i have a NOAC thats shaped like a penguin!
its called the Power Games Super Entertainment System. its got wireless controllers. but there is a wired one i could figure out how to attatch ;)
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im taking pics of the guts w/ a cam phone so bear with me and the quality!
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the games are on a 60 pin cart, which leads me to belive i can modify the slot on the back from famicom (60) to nes (72)

the only issue. i dont know how! if any of you can help please respond. thanks!
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Post by lovablechevy » Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:17 pm

all of that can be found under the "Big Super Happy Mega Power NES Info Sticky."

scroll down a bit in the first post. it's right after all the posted portables.
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Post by phantom92opera » Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:16 pm

i couldnt find it in there but i know where to get audio, vid, voltage, and theres a controller port for a famicom,

using the document u sent i could easily change the controller

im just not sure where on the cart slot i begin (pin 1) but the document helped
also, should i use the universal cart slot pinout at the bottom?

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Post by lovablechevy » Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:21 pm

huh...

i can't find this link in the sticky anymore...

this is what i was meaning you need.

sorry bout that.

one way to make sure it can play nes games is to get a family converter before doing all that soldering... :?
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Post by phantom92opera » Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:41 am

hey guys i just opened an old "pc propad" from my game drawer and found a 14 pin chip labeled texas instruments LM324N
i got the data sheet on line and wasnt sure if it matches up to the 4021 for an nes controller. if any of you could notify me thatd be great!

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Post by phantom92opera » Sat Jun 28, 2008 9:48 pm

bump.. has anyone any ideas?

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Post by Bibin » Sun Jun 29, 2008 12:29 am

Just because it has 14 pins does not mean it'll work at all. Don't rip up totally unsupported controllers; just ebay yourself a famicom or NES controller.
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Post by phantom92opera » Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:41 pm

yes i know this, i looked up the data sheet but of couse since its not a 4021 it doesnt identify pins as brown red white etc. it has data ins and outs and whatnot. oh well! im gonna finish my genesis first before i embark on this project

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Post by phantom92opera » Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:40 pm

zenith 5" xbox screen is on its way from ebay!
72 pin cart slot is on its way
as are 2 NES controllers which will provide my 4021 (and a spare for 2p or incase i screw up)

this should be fairly easier than my current project (which i highly reccommend you all visit ;) see my sig)

debating on zn-40 (45?) case or not...

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Post by Bubbles » Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:28 pm

ZN-40 seems really big for an NOACp.

Even with the screen I think it will have a fair bit empty space, though you could used that space for a tricked out battery.

Though in fairness I've never seen a real ZN-40, though I have read the size of it and seen a real NOAC (the one from my FC Twin that one day I got bored and opened it).

But whatever, it's better to have too much space than not enough, and the ZN-40 is a nice lookin' case.

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Post by phantom92opera » Mon Jul 07, 2008 5:29 pm

hey guys, got my controlers in today (3rd party) and not to much surprise... they have gloptop ICs.
after relooking traces, i have come up with a pinout for them.. for those of you with the time.. PLEASE look the map over and try to find mistakes.. if there are any i need to know!.
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aside from that i just have to wire the controller straight to the NOAC board (famicom input) and test that, then from there i can try using tact switches and just the IC.. i belive i wont need the blue connection because im not using a lightgun.. One more thing: there is a resistor on the back of the board connecting yellow to blue. i think its 10k. not sure. what significance does it have??
i will be using a 5" zenith xbox screen (already on its way)

i have heard rumors about problems powering it and a daughter board..? this wont be an issue correct?

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Post by Seaniccus » Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:51 am

Just wondering, what made you decide to go with a third party controller? Do you just like the feel of it better? Also, what does it look like with the case on?

I usually just go with a classic NES pad or Famicom Pad if I can find one. They play just as you remember, and pinouts are easy to find.

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Post by phantom92opera » Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:55 am

they were from the same seller i got the cart connector from on ebay and it was convenient. i will have enof case space if i have to wire tacts directly to the buttons...
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im mostly worried abt wiring the cartslot
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Post by Rekarp » Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:06 am

why didnt you just order a 4021 and make the controllers? It is much easier then you think it is.
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Post by phantom92opera » Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:08 am

i didnt kno where to get one and if i did digikey, they require a minimum of 20-25 per order

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