PS2 Stick on N64

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PS2 Stick on N64

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I thought it would be pretty cool if you could use a PS2 analog stick (third party) on a Superpad 64 controller. That way you could utilize the R3/L3 tact switch, by pushing the joystick in, to control an n64 button (not sure what yet, maybe Z?). I wired it up in the way I thought was correct:

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However, when i tested it the joystick worked but there were two problems. First, the x axis was flipped (left=right, right=left) and the joystick was very slow (maybe 1/4 normal sensitivity). I know this probably has something to do with the resistance of the pots on the PS2 joystick. But unfortunately i don't have extensive knowledge on this subject, so i was wondering if anybody could offer me a solution?
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To my knowledge, if the resistences differ, you cannot use that stick. I haven't seen a working workaround.

That said, I did this same mod with an original XBox stick, and it works. Plus, that also has a stick button. I wouldn't set it to Z, though - Road Rash 64 uses that for gas!
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Re: PS2 Stick on N64

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I was able to use a 1st party ps2 stick just fine with my superpad 64.

EDIT: OHWAIT you said 3rd party :o
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I have a first party ps2 as well. Any info on how you did it? I don't have any xbox controllers, so that's not an option. Also, what type of superpad was it? This is mine (superpad 64 performance):

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Was your controller pinout the same as mine above? ^
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My controller looked the same as yours, just a different color. Yes, there are two superpads - the one you show (by performance) and the two-prong by somebody else. The one you used is the good one.

As far as your pinout, you don't have ground connected. I connected the two grounds and ran them to Gnd, then the middle pin of X to VX1, and then the middle pin of Y to VY1. The remaining pin next to X ran to VC1 and the one next to Y to VD1.

It was a third-party XBox controller, but I think that layout is pretty standard.
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Re: PS2 Stick on N64

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Like this??

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Yeah I've already got that one down and it was pretty straightfoward. I just wanted to try something different for my portable and incorporate L3/R3 buttons (there are plenty of cool uses for them :D). Thats why I am interested in the details of snowpenguin's mod because I don't want to mess it up. Sony PS2 controllers aren't exactly cheap; however, the 3rd party one I got for $1.00 so there was no harm in destroying it. Thanks for any help.
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Nothing wrong with the other superpad, it works just fine.........
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Re: PS2 Stick on N64

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snowpenguin wrote:Nothing wrong with the other superpad, it works just fine.........
Do you have the two-pronged one then?

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or the type i have above???

Either way do you have the same pinout on the controller board?

VX1
VY1
VC1
VD1
Gnd
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Re: PS2 Stick on N64

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Yes, your revised schematic looks exactly like what I did.

Penguin, so the other one works too? Good to know - wouldn't mind replacing the stick on that, although it's not terrible.
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Re: PS2 Stick on N64

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Trust me, the stick on the two handled superpad 64 is not good for portables. The thing is huge, they actually used standard through hole gigantometric potentiometers in there with a plastic casing. You don't want it except for a portable that's big already I promise.

IIRC the board has four wires to the joystick.
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I meant for use as a regular controller. I opened mine, and you are right - Good Lord, it's huge!

I don't have my multimeter handy, so I can't check the resistence. However, it looks like it also has the same X-Y-VC1-VD1-GND setup.
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